House Morcane

cryptc · Charylene Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 77

Today I've finally realized whats really made me dislike TFR alot the last few months... its the OOC chatter... the tells with the latest rumours or whining about how this or that DM/Player is being unfair... It was really getting on my nerves without me realizing it, and as such I've been a bit rude in some tells and for this I apologize.

Just wanted to let you know that from now on I won't engage in OOC speak aside from warning about necessary RL interferences, so any tells about "want to hunt?" or whining about something will either go unanswered or with a polite reply that I don't engage in OOC speak like this.

I think this might be a major reason why people have been uncomfortable around the whole drow-incident lately, so people might want to think about this...

PrinceMyshkin · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:42 am Post subject:

Bringing on some RP would help.

http://morcane.netfreehost.com/viewtopic.php?t=214

Your charachter is amongst the very few Morcanes with a single IC post. I have yet not seen any significant RP effort coming from your side. Everytime I invite you to an event we make, you seem unmotivated to participate, even if the event is random free-style RP and has nothing to do with Drow ranks.

I hope this will change.

cryptc · Charylene Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 77

Mr_Otyugh · DM Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 17

Sorry to hop in thee forums... but just felt like I should reply on this thread...

Forum stories isn't necessarily same as RP.
- It's sorta like writing books... and I don't think book writers consider RPing. Sort of yes, sort of no. And I can say that some of the best roleplayers I've seen never writes forum stories, some of the best do... in the end it doesn't matter too much.
- write stories for fun, not for measurement.

Not coming to events is not same as not RPing.
- Sometimes character has no reason to come in events which is totally IC.
- Sometimes OOC reasons come in way, but that doesn't mean one isn't RPing. (such as timezones/not concerning the character)
- Sometimes character doesn't learn things IC it's impossible to join in those.
- It is true that sometimes best RP is not to join in event. As example I give my character Dellix that didn't join in DM event that would have been high chance of getting shards... I didn't join in.. why? there were drow and surfacers mixed, my character hated drow and I stayed true to my character. I never got rewarded, but I would do it again if I had to choose.

If one learns to keep things IC even when things aren't going as planned, then it's great.
- Don't go to OOC unless you absolutely have to... rather step back, consider "Does it actually matter, does that thing actually do anything to my character?"
- Everyone are different, do not try to tell otherwise. One thing we enjoy playing with others is because everyone are different, don't try to change everyone to be same.
- If you can't manage your time with someone else, keep distance, don't start arguing.
- Please don't draw others to your problems at least OOC, IC naturally call for allies if possible by IC means.
- If someone breaks rules, rely on DMs, not OOC bickering - try to guide them with tells on where to find rules and stay civil.
- Also keep in mind that there is always the other side, just because you and him/her don't always see eye to eye doesn't always mean they're wrong.
- Live like you preach... are you better player than they? If you're going OOC easily then you're not showing it.
- Lastly... WWMCD? (What Would "My Character" Do?) <- do that, don't go OOC.

And I can conform cryptc to be one of the best RPers I've seen around TFR as well as having great common sense.

*EDIT*

Oh and forgot this...

"Never argue with idiots ... they'll drag you down to their own level ... and beat you with experience." - not directed at anyone, but everyone gets here someday.

Goodguy666 · Fargol Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 178

*gives Mr. O a big bear hug* We knew you couldent stay away...you are addicted to the abuse us players subject you to

Wink

Goodguy

P.S. Not gonna stick my hand in the bee-hive. But I dont see any reason to leave the house at all, except if you for some reason feel like leaving. Its a game, do what you enjoy and ignore the rest (best as possible)

PrinceMyshkin · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject:

Cryptc is a good RPer, but I have seen very little RP, and too much OOC coming from Charylene. Sorry to say, but I cannot remember Charylene participating in anything we have collectively done -every time comes a different excuse... In addition Charylene has done very little to make her RP noticeable.

Nobody has asked Cryptc to step out. House Morcane is open to all players of this server, no matter what their initiatives are to join us... There is no persona non grata in House Morcane.

Of course, Saldo has reasons to back Cryptc up, which I start to understand. I would like to ask Saldo what does he remember of Charylene on this server.

I remember a lot of Cryptc's other characters, he has proven to be an excellent RPer. When I try to think of Charylene, I find nothing. This characher is around since April, which is sufficient enough for me.

I hope you will be prove me wrong in the future. I hold Cryptc in high esteem as an RPer, but this does not mean I agree with everything he does and the way he does it.

Thanks,
Mysh Smile

PS @ Cryptc Thank you for the apolgies. I appreciate it. Last time we've spoken, I felt totally hurt. I hope to see you more in the future. I am sure you have the potential to prove me wrong, and I will be really glad to see this happening. Smile

Dlareh · Ceil, Rad Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 854

Charylene was at the event where we summoned a Pit Fiendish Demon friend of Rizzen's inside the house and sent it to attack some place on the surface, roughly 2 months ago.

That's about all I know about her. I have no complaints about cryptc, but Charylene fits well within my definition of "mostly inactive". I don't see her in game and I don't see IC stuff here and I haven't heard anything about her from any other player or character.

If that's going to change, great! I'll look forward to seeing her around.

If it doesn't change, that's okay too...we all get busy at some time or another, maybe cryptc will be active with her a few months from now... *shrug* it's not a big deal, I know cryptc has a gazillion characters : )
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PrinceMyshkin · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject:

I agree with Dave.

Cryptc, there is a cool story going on at the moment. I would like the help of a necromantic Yathrin to contact a dead soul. I am not sure how will it work. We will need to do some voodoo to contact the pirate captain, who Keira assassinated by mistake in the excavations pit. Would you like to help me?

Mr_Otyugh · DM Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 17

Back up cryptic? *shrugs*

I stated the obvious... Wink

I didn't really say if cryptics actions are good or bad, just said that stories or events aren't necessarily more RP than lack of them.

There's always multiple sides in things, you stated the other side I stated the other.

PrinceMyshkin · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject:

So, you and cryptc are not mates in any way, right? Smile

No, I didn't state anything different than you... Cryptc is a good RPer, I agree. Charylene not much... Wink

Mr_Otyugh · DM Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 17

Does it really matter on this case? I know cryptic as player and could say similar to like couple dozen other players (still quite limited number really), but they had not replied to this thread.

PrinceMyshkin · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject:

You know better mate. Wink

Mr_Otyugh · DM Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 17

I know better that same things I said earlier applies to everyone... do you not agree? And please don't make assumptions on what I think... whether friend or not, same things apply for I don't do "friends only guides"... either way I suggest sticking to IC in game by any means necessary... leave OOC to forums or just some casual things, and just because it's written in Morcane forums doesn't mean I'm against Morcanes, but because the thread was made here and you can read the beginning part again to conform that point.

Oh and got something more on my mind...
- Don't look for ammunitions to use against others OOC, that's only one way to end up towards OOC chatter.

cryptc · Charylene Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 77

Dlareh · Ceil, Rad Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 854

IMO the scolding was entirely uncalled for and derailed a thread that was supposed to be about something else entirely. Furthermore, this stuff about how friendly cryptc and Mr O. happen to be was also a silly tangent, but I guess it's not my place to tell people not to be silly. Whatever floats your boat...

Basically the stuff cryptc posted about in the OP had nothing to do with how active Charylene happens to be. cryptc has other characters outside of Morcane to be concerned with and was just making some points about the OOC drow situation in general.

(This is all my opinion. Mysh can respond, but I'm not interested in yet another argument. It's just my opinion, and will only change if someone other than Mysh says something because I don't want an argument. Sorry for the trouble.)

cryptc · Charylene Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 77

I appreciate the voice of reason Dlareh Smile

PrinceMyshkin · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Myshkin

Sure... I will definitely drag you to my level and beat you with experience. Wink

I still think Saldo is covering up his body and Cherylene had contributed very little to RP to complain about OOC. I also believe Chery's presence has been dubious. This is though the opinion of an idiot...

I've said these things already. I will now withdraw from this topic.

Mr_Otyugh · DM Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 17

I never directed it at anyone... but I did mention everyone finds themselves there sometimes.

And I could take that another as favoritism accusation, but I think I'll let my earlier words speak on behalf of that... but you of course have right for your own opinnions.

About "protecting" cryptic... infact what I've heard happening in Szith is that it is pretty much everyone, situation is probably gotten improved now, but at the first days after "The Reckoning 2008 mark 2" was the type that someone (no real matter which house/player.. mainly everyone) started RP and got OOC stuff on their backs, so I find it very reasonable to ask to keep OOC things away actually.

It's not directly the thing you said against, but the tone it was said... also the way I got the message was that it had nothing to do with the amount of RP possibilities around... more like the amount of OOC that comes for just playing around. (I think many of you have seen some of those posts in TFR forums as well - http://forgottenrealm.ca/smf/index.php/topic,491.0.html <- that one as example)

Now way to give RP opportunities I've always went the way that initiative is must, if not yours.. then someone elses... but about that one should not whine if one doesn't give RP opportunities and from first post I didn't see there mentions that there was no RP opportunities to hang on or RP to do... just the amount of OOC chatter... I quoted it under this post.

PrinceMyshkin · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:02 am Post subject:

"You may fool all of the people some of the time; and some of the people all of the time; but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Abraham Lincoln

Not directed to anyone, everyone finds themselves there sometimes.

Mr_Otyugh · DM Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 17

"Never argue with idiots ... they'll drag you down to their own level ... and beat you with experience."

*noticed himself calling himself idiot undirectly and just grins mindlessly* Very Happy

*edit*
Brought this song to my mind (hehe and sorry if you find it offensive, just felt like it fitted to my own admitting)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry838Hym0jg

I know... not the best timing, but it's fun!

quizzt · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:20 am Post subject:

I wonder if this is getting out of control?
Why don't we rp on TFR and leave the ooc comments out completely?

*uses the love stone on all of them*
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Dieu_Le_Fera · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:22 am Post subject:

Saya... the yathrin of reason ::le sigh::
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cryptc · Charylene Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 77