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baby_cow Keira
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: House demotion? |
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A Kor'ali (Vorne) is recuiting new drow players to join their house, they are claiming that they just became the Second House in Szith. What is that suppose to mean? Is that true or is he spreading rumors? |
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Dlareh Ceil, Rad
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 854
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:02 am Post subject: |
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If she claims it IC, deal with it IC.
OOC it's not true yet because Hari said he will decide, but it's possible. I wouldn't say likely. _________________ I know not with what devices D&D 5E will be played, but D&D 6E will be played with papers and pencils. |
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baby_cow Keira
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: |
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No, he was speaking it OOC (in tell) recuiting my sister (Ashantee- her first time ever drow charc) to join her house. He said that Hari is going to change it shortly. Therefore, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on the rumors regarding the House demotion/promotion. *sigh* And this was not due to the Ashian'a incident. Other plots were involved (so he said) *shrug* |
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Dlareh Ceil, Rad
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 854
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: |
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He said that Hari still has to approve it and thinks it likely to happen because Mori'hyanda and Dev'Lin agreed to it. I don't think it's likely because that's not the way things work AFAIK, but speculation isn't going to help, let's just all be patient and not get too excited.
Also, this plan was not made by Hades (Vorne's player), it's Mori'hyanda's doing. He's just rolling with it, and said he wouldn't expect Kor'ali to remain the 2nd house long since it's new and weak.
Kor'ali are tadpoles in a pond with big fish, and they know this (both IC and OOC). They're nervously going along with what Mori'hyanda and Dev'lin are trying to do since it's looking to benefit them, but I'm guessing they will quickly stand aside if they find it's in their interest. _________________ I know not with what devices D&D 5E will be played, but D&D 6E will be played with papers and pencils.
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Dieu_Le_Fera Aly'Ffyn, Ilzt'Daer, Elk'Inid
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 489 Location: NJ
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: |
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I don't need another headache over this... I will wait and see _________________ "The battle lasted for the better part of the day and the blood ran like rivers." Mathew of Edessa |
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Dlareh Ceil, Rad
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 854
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Dieu_Le_Fera wrote: | I don't need another headache over this... I will wait and see |
Aye aye : ) _________________ I know not with what devices D&D 5E will be played, but D&D 6E will be played with papers and pencils. |
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Hades Vorne Kor'ali
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 50
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Dlareh wrote: | He said that Hari still has to approve it and thinks it likely to happen because Mori'hyanda and Dev'Lin agreed to it. I don't think it's likely because that's not the way things work AFAIK, but speculation isn't going to help, let's just all be patient and not get too excited.
Also, this plan was not made by Hades (Vorne's player), it's Mori'hyanda's doing. He's just rolling with it, and said he wouldn't expect Kor'ali to remain the 2nd house long since it's new and weak.
Kor'ali are tadpoles in a pond with big fish, and they know this (both IC and OOC). They're nervously going along with what Mori'hyanda and Dev'lin are trying to do since it's looking to benefit them, but I'm guessing they will quickly stand aside if they find it's in their interest. |
He really hit the nail on the head here. OOCly, yeah im a bit excited that were benefiting from the other houses plans, but I also know it isnt going to last long and im ready for that. Dlareh said exactly what I would have. |
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baby_cow Keira
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:28 am Post subject: |
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What? what? What is a Kor'ali doing on our forum? LOL it's like the thief looking in to see what the police are doing. Har har! |
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Hades Vorne Kor'ali
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 50
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: |
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*realises he is caught and runs away* lol dont worry, I no metagamy. Im only allowed in general discussion and Daves (insert multiple letters) room |
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Felnak De'Lara
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 250 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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This seems like another idea to create OOC tension. Let us see what serious RP will come of it. _________________ De'Lara, Ilharess of House Morcane |
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Hades Vorne Kor'ali
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I know, I dont think the plotting was done to create ooc tension but rather to add some new intrigue to the otherwise dull underdark. I know as far as Kor'ali go our actions are soley 100% icly and we arent trying to piss anyone off OOCly, but if we do I apologise. As was said we dont make the plots or plans, we just roll with them if they make sense to us ICly |
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Dieu_Le_Fera Aly'Ffyn, Ilzt'Daer, Elk'Inid
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 489 Location: NJ
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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It is well known that members of Mori hold an OOC grudge on Morcane for things that happened well before most of us were members. I can remember when I first joined Morcane and a rather well known underdark player made tan ooc comment that "Morcanes breed like rats and that Mori had to pretty much stop everything to "allow" Morcane to get on its feet." So... there is more to this then just something different in the UD I assure you. _________________ "The battle lasted for the better part of the day and the blood ran like rivers." Mathew of Edessa |
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Hades Vorne Kor'ali
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Let me rephrase then. There is nothing more to this as far as Kor'ali goes. |
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PrinceMyshkin Eleuthera, Elvanshalee Vildess
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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OK, we will be the fourth house anyway. So no prob. |
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Of_Memory_and_Sorrow Xi'Shae
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 215
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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No, we want. The massive beast that is the House Morcane is preparing to devour everything in its path. May the gods give you shelter. |
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Hades Vorne Kor'ali
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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In all honestly, powerwise Morcane is a beast. To let you in on a secret thats why other houses plot against you. Its because you guys are powerful, real powerful and it makes them nervous. Take this whole thing as a compliment because truley it is. If you were weak like Kor'ali, the other houses wouldnt be as concerned with you lol.
And please, dont just accept to become the fourth house. Fight it! You have a fair chance at winning and if you do win then what happens? Hell you become the first house! |
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Hades Vorne Kor'ali
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Also, remember....ICly Kor'ali helps those who they stand to benefit the most from. Just because they appear to be allied with the Mori or the Dev'lin doesnt mean that its set in stone..... |
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PrinceMyshkin Eleuthera, Elvanshalee Vildess
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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We are fighting for over a year mate... the only thing we do here is fight, fight, fight. All of us have been railroaded numerous times, and this has not broken our will, or pushed us an inch back. I do not wish to elaborate, you will find out more stuff with time.
If there is any reason I joined this house, and I swear for this, is the injustice I've seen around me.
We are going to fight, and we will fight even more and with greater passion and determination from the fourth place, which you guys have reserved for us.
Thanks,
Mysh |
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Hades Vorne Kor'ali
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Well to be honest Vorne tried to get Dev'lin in the fourth house slot and Morcane in the third.... |
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PrinceMyshkin Eleuthera, Elvanshalee Vildess
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Ah... thank you! |
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quizzt Saya
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 254 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: |
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I did not get much online time this weekend.
So did I really miss our fall from second house to fourth house?
Or is it a speculation?
I will try to read everything I missed in the weekend, but do not have much time because I am at work.Therefor this question. _________________ L'alurl faerbol zhah mrann d'ssinss |
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Of_Memory_and_Sorrow Xi'Shae
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 215
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:30 am Post subject: |
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It is not fact, it is speculation because they are plotting that they want it that way, it is not that way. |
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Hades Vorne Kor'ali
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Yeah its just speculation. Nothing is set in stone yet and those plotting still need Admin approval, but Hari hasnt been online to give it. Its gonna take a bit to organise and if a house war breaks out there still needs to be rules implimented. |
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PrinceMyshkin Eleuthera, Elvanshalee Vildess
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Since you guys have plotted everything so nicely, everything will be fine. |
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Beleg Vornrak
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed, rules will need to be adapted.
Lolth rules are quite not applicable in its whole while keeping the TFR server spirit intact.
House ranking can only be upward, since to go up, you must DESTROY the house that was holding that rank. Since anhiliation seems not to be a good option here, maybe ranking based on points could be established.
You gain/loose point according to these set of rules. Or organize a series of arena scrimage to determine the winner ?
Just my to gp here! |
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PrinceMyshkin Eleuthera, Elvanshalee Vildess
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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TFR has DMs which have been given the task of keeping TFR rules. TFR rules are set and they are fine as they are.
I have faith in the DMs, and if they have decided we should become 4th House after one year's hard efforts to challenge the first house, we will become the 4th House. If they decide Mori'hyanda should stay the 1st House forever, Mori'hyanda should stay 1st House forever. I am happy with that.
On the other side, our house will do its best. If our efforts are not considered not, then they are not enough.
The rule, which we need to apply above of all is common sense. |
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quizzt Saya
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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And this is all because of the "Rizzen incident" ?
That would sound a little lame to me, but I do remember the first rule:
DM IS ALWAYS RIGHT!
_________________ L'alurl faerbol zhah mrann d'ssinss |
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Dlareh Ceil, Rad
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Beleg wrote: | House ranking can only be upward, since to go up, you must DESTROY the house that was holding that rank. |
I believe you can agree to go down? At the risk of being destroyed -- and because Mori'hyanda wanted to keep them as a tool against Morcane -- Dev'Lin basically agreed to be demoted below Kor'ali instead of being disbanded or destroyed.
Morcane could still try to destroy Dev'Lin on its own, but I would assume we don't want to risk a Mori'hyanda backstabbing. _________________ I know not with what devices D&D 5E will be played, but D&D 6E will be played with papers and pencils.
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Hidden Steel
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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DMS are always write, as long as we are provided with IC proof that the higher beings of the city and lolth make it so, (usually a house is told what they did wrong).
Even if we dont get told ICly if...and why we are demoted, we are at least entitled to OOC explinatins _________________ I play...
Velkyn Skikudis Morcane:"Ten"
((Velg'larn d'qu'ellar Morcane))
Damien Hlauth-"You dont know how to spell mercenary? Let me help you.....G.O.L.D" |
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baby_cow Keira
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: |
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This whole demotion isn't related to 'Rizzen's incident' (more of a whole group that included myself (Keira), Nawen, and Cain .. it's a whole OTHER RP.. there's already a ground work from other houses combining to get the Morcanes.. this issue is petty.
So please don't point the finger.. with our incident, it was a bad case of RP gone wrong due to the server crashing and the other party refusing to return to the scene. Some of you might think that it was b/c of that we are getting 'demoted' .. it's NOT. Sorry for repeating myself so many time >.> just wanted to put emphasis on this! |
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Goodguy666 Fargol
Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 178
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: blame |
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well....we need someone to blame ! j/k |
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baby_cow Keira
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: |
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*cries* blame Keira for allowing llharess Dev'Lin to fully buff instead of attacking her straight on.. forgive me for trying to be fair |
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